"This is at Kukupanyu when you pass Pingka, which is South East of Kukupanyu. We walked down to this place, there is water there, we have ngurrara, a place to live here. You can reach this place through Kulyayi, to the Big Jila. The old old people get inside. They hide in the water and wait for birds to come, Klig Klig. They grab their legs and throw them, kill them and eat them. Plenty of people have come to this place."