This is country close to Kunumata on the back road from Nyapari to Watarru. Apu tjuta (there are many rocky outcrops) here, close to Kunamata, tjukula tjuta (and deep rockholes). The earth is red and there are many sandhills. Tali kutjupa kutjupa (different sands). In this area there are special rocks that Anangu use to make knives, kanti. The rock chips are lying on the earth where men for many years have been making weapons. The piece of sharpened stone is attached to the end of the spear thrower with kangaroo sinew and can be used to cut up meat.